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	<title>Comments on: Existentialists at the Nineteenth Hole</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Alber</title>
		<link>http://horse-you-rode-in-on.com/2008/06/27/existentialists-at-the-nineteenth-hole/#comment-872</link>
		<author>Steve Alber</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Al:

Brilliant! ... but at this point, that's merely par for the golf course.  I suspect – nay, fervently hope – young people will understand intuitively that with the essay under their belts, they've saved themselves the trouble and sheer, unmitigated boredom, of idling away their precious computer time in freshman and sophomore philosophy classes.  And they'll be able to go directly to their careers as insurance salesmen, tour guides or soda jerks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al:</p>
<p>Brilliant! &#8230; but at this point, that&#8217;s merely par for the golf course.  I suspect – nay, fervently hope – young people will understand intuitively that with the essay under their belts, they&#8217;ve saved themselves the trouble and sheer, unmitigated boredom, of idling away their precious computer time in freshman and sophomore philosophy classes.  And they&#8217;ll be able to go directly to their careers as insurance salesmen, tour guides or soda jerks.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://horse-you-rode-in-on.com/2008/06/27/existentialists-at-the-nineteenth-hole/#comment-873</link>
		<author>Al</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Many thanks, Steve.  And you're quite right -- philosophy goes down more easily in short swigs.  Richard Sheridan pointed out that even this essay is too long for most folks -- I think he meant most golfers -- and might be better administered in smaller packages.   But the fact remains that we probably witnessed history being made, with the first discussion of existentialism ever to take place at a golf outing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks, Steve.  And you&#8217;re quite right &#8212; philosophy goes down more easily in short swigs.  Richard Sheridan pointed out that even this essay is too long for most folks &#8212; I think he meant most golfers &#8212; and might be better administered in smaller packages.   But the fact remains that we probably witnessed history being made, with the first discussion of existentialism ever to take place at a golf outing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Dell</title>
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		<author>Dick Dell</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Al, your enlightening essay on existentialism is terrific.  The wonderful truth about the word is that it can be used by almost anyone in almost any situation to make oneself sound learned.  I've read  French existentialist writers  and still have no real philosophical grasp of wht it means.    It's like reading the reconstructionists and wondering what all that is about.  What one wants to read is a hell of a good story.  

I assume your golfing buddies who, like the rest of us, don't understand existentialism, were corporate types you met when you were an existentialist ad copy writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al, your enlightening essay on existentialism is terrific.  The wonderful truth about the word is that it can be used by almost anyone in almost any situation to make oneself sound learned.  I&#8217;ve read  French existentialist writers  and still have no real philosophical grasp of wht it means.    It&#8217;s like reading the reconstructionists and wondering what all that is about.  What one wants to read is a hell of a good story.  </p>
<p>I assume your golfing buddies who, like the rest of us, don&#8217;t understand existentialism, were corporate types you met when you were an existentialist ad copy writer.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://horse-you-rode-in-on.com/2008/06/27/existentialists-at-the-nineteenth-hole/#comment-875</link>
		<author>Al</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Exactly!  Though they (with one or two exceptions) were also on the advertising agency side of the fence rather than working in corporate headquarters.  Agencies are unwittingly existential in the sense that have to invent themselves in the face of mandated divine plans handed down by corporate management. This was often a case of "La Nausee" because the corporate brass in the 1960s and 70s believed they were the smartest people on earth while, in fact, the Japanese and others were eating their lunch.  For the agency people who created their ads, this could have been a bleak existence except for the fact that anytime you were stuck for an idea, you knew that if you suggested an ad with a photograph taken off the coast of California, at Harbortown or Pebble Beach or in the Caribbean, all the executives would happily agree and would somehow find time to lend their personal presence to the shoot.  That's how to convert alienation into a perfectly pleasant existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly!  Though they (with one or two exceptions) were also on the advertising agency side of the fence rather than working in corporate headquarters.  Agencies are unwittingly existential in the sense that have to invent themselves in the face of mandated divine plans handed down by corporate management. This was often a case of &#8220;La Nausee&#8221; because the corporate brass in the 1960s and 70s believed they were the smartest people on earth while, in fact, the Japanese and others were eating their lunch.  For the agency people who created their ads, this could have been a bleak existence except for the fact that anytime you were stuck for an idea, you knew that if you suggested an ad with a photograph taken off the coast of California, at Harbortown or Pebble Beach or in the Caribbean, all the executives would happily agree and would somehow find time to lend their personal presence to the shoot.  That&#8217;s how to convert alienation into a perfectly pleasant existence.</p>
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		<title>By: John DePaul</title>
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		<author>John DePaul</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A masterful exposition, wrapped around a definition even I can comprehend. "...no pre-ordained essence, purpose or plan..." Deliciously desperate, and applicable to soccer/futbol as  well as the musings of Sartre, Camus, Heidegger, et al. Hail to Brillat-Savarin and his philosphy of hedonistic pleasure incorporating essence, purpose and plan. At the very least, ol' BS was one Frenchman who knew what he was up to and why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A masterful exposition, wrapped around a definition even I can comprehend. &#8220;&#8230;no pre-ordained essence, purpose or plan&#8230;&#8221; Deliciously desperate, and applicable to soccer/futbol as  well as the musings of Sartre, Camus, Heidegger, et al. Hail to Brillat-Savarin and his philosphy of hedonistic pleasure incorporating essence, purpose and plan. At the very least, ol&#8217; BS was one Frenchman who knew what he was up to and why.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<author>Al</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ah, so!  This requires deep consideration and possibly a battlefield promotion to a religious conversion.  You're saying that an exuberantly corrupt, hedonistic lifestyle is one of the joys of religious belief but denied to those miserable atheists like Sartre.  Well, like the guy in the joke said when Satan showed him the beautiful golf courses of hell -- sign me up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, so!  This requires deep consideration and possibly a battlefield promotion to a religious conversion.  You&#8217;re saying that an exuberantly corrupt, hedonistic lifestyle is one of the joys of religious belief but denied to those miserable atheists like Sartre.  Well, like the guy in the joke said when Satan showed him the beautiful golf courses of hell &#8212; sign me up!</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
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		<author>Barb</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The Philosopher's Drinking Song
(from Monty Python)

Immanuel Kant was a real piss-ant who was very rarely stable. 
Heideggar, Heideggar was a boozy beggar who could think you under the table. 
David Hume could out-consume Wilhelm Freidrich Hegel. 
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine who was just as sloshed as Schlegel. 

There's nothing Nieizsche couldn't teach 'ya 'bout the raising of the wrist. 
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.
 
John Stewart Mill, of his own free will, after half a pint of shanty was particularly ill. 
Plato, they say, could stick it away, half a crate of whiskey every day! 
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle, 
And Hobbes was fond of his Dram. 
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart: 
"I drink, therefore I am." 

Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed; 
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed

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Sing along here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQycQ8DABvc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Philosopher&#8217;s Drinking Song<br />
(from Monty Python)</p>
<p>Immanuel Kant was a real piss-ant who was very rarely stable.<br />
Heideggar, Heideggar was a boozy beggar who could think you under the table.<br />
David Hume could out-consume Wilhelm Freidrich Hegel.<br />
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine who was just as sloshed as Schlegel. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing Nieizsche couldn&#8217;t teach &#8216;ya &#8217;bout the raising of the wrist.<br />
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.</p>
<p>John Stewart Mill, of his own free will, after half a pint of shanty was particularly ill.<br />
Plato, they say, could stick it away, half a crate of whiskey every day!<br />
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,<br />
And Hobbes was fond of his Dram.<br />
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart:<br />
&#8220;I drink, therefore I am.&#8221; </p>
<p>Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;<br />
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he&#8217;s pissed</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Sing along here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQycQ8DABvc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQycQ8DABvc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<author>Al</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ah, yes.  And the lost stanzas (drink will do that):

And then there was Aquinas
who in highness lost his shyness

And Jacques Maritain, a Cognac-loving man
(One sniff of the cork, he called in to take off work)

And holy St. Augustine -- bishop of Hippo?
Who every Sunday morning turned bread and wine to zippo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes.  And the lost stanzas (drink will do that):</p>
<p>And then there was Aquinas<br />
who in highness lost his shyness</p>
<p>And Jacques Maritain, a Cognac-loving man<br />
(One sniff of the cork, he called in to take off work)</p>
<p>And holy St. Augustine &#8212; bishop of Hippo?<br />
Who every Sunday morning turned bread and wine to zippo</p>
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